WASHINGTON—Because the partial authorities shutdown heads into its third week, the president has made it clear he gained’t signal a spending invoice that doesn’t include $5.6 billion towards a wall on the Southwest border. Vice President Mike Pence met with congressional representatives over the weekend to attempt to hash out a deal.
President Donald Trump has introduced out border brokers and the Homeland Safety secretary to emphasize how a wall might diminish cross-border crime, whereas Democrats have continued to say that a wall can be costly and ineffective.
The Epoch Occasions reached out to Trump rally-goers from throughout the nation to discover out what they assume. We requested two questions:
1) Do you assume Trump ought to proceed the partial authorities shutdown till he will get $5 billion for the border fence? Why/Why not?
2) What’s your opinion on the Democrats’ stance on the wall funding?
Solutions might have been edited for brevity and readability.
Catrina Albo in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., on Aug. 2, 2018. (Samira Bouaou/The Epoch Occasions)
- 1 Catrina Albo, homemaker, New Jersey
- 2 CaSandra Affolter, self-employed, Akron, Ohio
- 3 Len Spadaro, truck driver and Desert Storm veteran, Hazleton, Pennsylvania
- 4 Dan Cooley, forester, West Virginia
- 5 Casie Steeves, advertising, Rochester, Minnesota
- 6 Victor Bellino, scholar
- 7 Becky Cline, manufacturing, Rosehill, Virginia
- 8 Tiffany Brief, manufacturing, Rosehill, Virginia
- 9 Jared Totsch, communications business, St. Louis
- 10 Will Schimmels, mechanical engineer, Wisconsin
- 11 Floyd Conaway, veteran
- 12 Rita Eveland, retired, Nashville
- 13 Brandi Adams, self-employed, Robbinsville, North Carolina
- 14 Ed Halland, retired, Montana
- 15 Mark Hoffman, self-employed
- 16 Nena Chancy, Tampa
- 17 Don Hindman, Bikers for Trump
- 18 Pat McDonough, digital technician, Rochester, Minnesota
- 19 Betty Risinger, retired, Las Vegas
- 20 Mike Alicea, retired banker
- 21 Kirsten N., dental hygienist, Minnesota
Catrina Albo, homemaker, New Jersey
“Sure, I feel Trump is spot-on with the partial authorities shutdown. Border safety isn’t an choice for america. We welcome immigrants… [but] individuals who cross any of our borders illegally are breaking the regulation. We the Americans are then confronted with supporting them financially, medically, and educationally (if they’ve youngsters) by means of our tax dollars. This can be a burden to our financial system, faculty techniques and communities. We’re a nation of legal guidelines, and people legal guidelines have to be enforced to maintain order. That’s a reality of any civilized society. Trump should stand agency. The shutdown is hard love for our nation!
“I find it amusing how many of the Democrats who supported a wall in the not-too-distant past are now vehemently opposed to its existence. Trump is an unconventional politician. He’s a businessman first and a very charismatic public figure, with an ability to influence and make deals. Establishment politicians can’t predict his next move and this rattles them. Their reaction to the wall funding is out of fear. They are simply afraid of the unknown.”
CaSandra Affolter in Lewis Middle, Ohio, on Aug. four, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
CaSandra Affolter, self-employed, Akron, Ohio
“I feel [Trump] ought to stand his floor. It’s clear [that] prior to now, Democrats have referred to as for a wall, fence, border safety, and so on.
“I’m very upset the Democrats will not come to the table. They have a job to do and that is what they were hired for. They need to make a deal with the president. Unfortunately, they are too busy vacationing and resisting—they’ve forgotten national security is a bipartisan issue.”
Len Spadaro in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., on Aug. 2, 2018. (Samira Bouaou/The Epoch Occasions)
Len Spadaro, truck driver and Desert Storm veteran, Hazleton, Pennsylvania
“I’ve by no means felt so strongly about a problem, since I can keep in mind. There has by no means been a president, ever, that had the center and braveness to rise up to the evil liberals which have created this disaster to start with, with their anti-American, unconstitutional legal guidelines, loopholes, and sheer stupidity!
“[Democrats] all are getting schooled by the ‘Master Negotiator’-in-chief!! They seem to think that President Trump is the fool, because he ‘owns’ the shutdown. Little do they know, realize, or even care how far out of touch they are with the pulse of America, what we want, what we wanted in our president, and what minced meat he is making of them right now.”
Dan Cooley (L) together with his spouse and three sons in Charleston, W. Va., on Aug. 21, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Dan Cooley, forester, West Virginia
“Sure. America of America is my house. I would like to reside in a rustic and lift my household in a spot the place I’m protected and guarded. President Trump genuinely cares concerning the residents of america of America. He wishes a protected and safe America. Our federal authorities is remitted to shield our nation (learn the Structure). President Trump is making an attempt to do his job, and I help that 100 %.
“The Democrats are selfish and only concerned about themselves, their socialist agenda, and what they can personally gain. This is so obvious by the hypocrisy, childish tantrums, lies, and corruption that they promote. The bottom line is that the Democrats hate Trump and his supporters, and will stop at nothing to ruin the president and, yes, they will ultimately ruin our great country.”
Casie and Matt Steeves in Rochester, Minn., on Oct. four, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Casie Steeves, advertising, Rochester, Minnesota
“Completely. It was his principal marketing campaign promise and with all of the caravans and unlawful individuals crossing the border, it’s essential to sluggish the quantity of individuals coming right here illegally.
“[Democrats] are just resisting and trying to rally their base. In my opinion, their main goal is as many illegal people here as possible, because they believe it means more supporters (and, in turn, votes) for them.”
Victor Bellino in Tampa, Fla., on July 31, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Victor Bellino, scholar
“[Trump] ought to proceed the shutdown for now. If he backs down now, it might anger lots of his supporters and endanger him within the upcoming 2020 election. He ought to comply with via with one among his largest marketing campaign guarantees, if potential.
“[Democrats] aren’t giving him the funding purely to make a stance, and to try to make a fool out of the president. Compared to the money that we put towards other programs in this country, the $5 billion for the wall is just a drop in the bucket. I believe the longer they deny border security, the more and more people will begin to realize how dangerous the radical left can be.”
Tiffany Brief (L) and Becky Cline in Johnson Metropolis, Tenn., on Oct. 1, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Becky Cline, manufacturing, Rosehill, Virginia
“I absolutely help the president persevering with the federal government shutdown. Crimes are being dedicated, and a few very dangerous individuals are moving into our nation. The wall wants to be constructed. Not solely are these unlawful immigrants receiving taxpayer-funded help, however they’re destroying lives of Americans who’ve labored onerous.
“Democrats are showing their true colors going after Trump, and it will backfire. The American citizens are watching it all unfold and seeing how absurd their behavior is. They aren’t doing anything other than fighting against Trump, which is not what they were elected to do.”
Tiffany Brief, manufacturing, Rosehill, Virginia
“Sure. Our nation has far too many unlawful immigrants. We see numerous unlawful medicine come throughout the border, and human trafficking is an issue. The wall can be an enormous deterrent.
“[Democrats] are only not giving in to the wall funding for the fact that Trump supports it. They refuse to work with him even on things that will help America tremendously in the long run. We need this for America. We need to make our security a top priority and put Americans first. If you want to come here, there is a proper channel to go through—one that will weed out criminals, and drug cartel members, and terrorists.”
Jared Totsch (R) and Tara Garcia in Springfield, Mo., Sept. 21, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Jared Totsch, communications business, St. Louis
“Sure. A lot of the present and up to date actions and involvement of the federal authorities exceeds the scope of the 10th Modification. One of many few powers particularly granted to the federal authorities by the Structure is border safety and nationwide protection. For this reason constructing a bodily barrier alongside our southern border must be the highest precedence of the federal authorities.
“The Democrats are being hypocrites and two-faced. They actually supported border-wall funding in the past, but have now changed their tune because President Trump is in the White House. Aside from resisting all things Trump, other reasons Democrats don’t want the wall include: operating on emotions instead of facts/logic/reason, and attempting to import votes from illegal immigrants who tend to vote Democrat.”
Will Schimmels waves an enormous, handmade flag outdoors a Make America Nice Once more rally in Rochester, Minn., on Oct. four, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Will Schimmels, mechanical engineer, Wisconsin
“Oh yeah, [Trump] ought to have requested for 3 times that quantity. [He] ought to maintain out for the whole wall, as a result of that is what issues to American households. Mothers need security for his or her youngsters.
“Democrats are going nowhere, and they know it.”
Floyd Conaway in Wheeling, W.Va., on Sept. 29, 2018. (Samira Bouaou/The Epoch Occasions)
Floyd Conaway, veteran
“Sure the partial shutdown ought to proceed so long as it’s efficient at placing some strain on the Democrats to accomplish the president’s objectives, which incorporates constructing the wall.
“The Democrats care more about their special-interest groups [and] the special-interest funding and kickbacks they receive from them. They care more about illegal immigrants and votes they receive from them, than the safety of the American people and security of our country and its borders.”
L-R: Rita Eveland, Mike Waller, and Andrea Mociran in Johnson Metropolis, Tenn., on Oct. 1, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Rita Eveland, retired, Nashville
“I hope with all my coronary heart that President Trump holds his floor with this authorities shutdown. We’re uninterested in our social-welfare packages being overrun with illegals which might be educated to recreation our system. We’ve got a path to citizenship and it really works. You can’t break into our nation and demand to be cared for by on a regular basis, hard-working People. We’ve got homeless vets of our personal to look after. Interval. No taxation with out illustration! We fought a warfare about that earlier than and we’re prepared to do it once more. These Dems and RINO Republicans not characterize us.
“[Democrats] are, as usual, giving all form and no substance. They claim to be doing a lot of things, but the truth is that they want to flood the country through open borders with a dependent class that will vote Democrat. It’s been their plan for years.”
Brandi Adams in Johnson Metropolis, Tenn., on Oct. 1, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Brandi Adams, self-employed, Robbinsville, North Carolina
“If it takes months shutting down the federal government to get the wall, then I stand with Trump all the best way.
“It seems the Democrats forget really easily all the lives lost due to MS-13 and how they were illegal immigrants that took those lives. Not all immigrants are bad people, but they should, as in any other country, enter the country legally. [Democrats] are like a bunch of spoiled babies not getting their way anymore, so now they are pitching a fit.”
Ed Halland in Billings, Mont., on Sept. 6, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Ed Halland, retired, Montana
“As a retired federal worker with 42 years of service, I completely help persevering with the federal government shutdown. First, standing agency lets the world know that we imply enterprise and can stand on precept with out compromise. Second, it lets the American individuals know which businesses are important and which aren’t. Third, if Donald Trump compromises on this problem, his credibility shall be misplaced.
“I believe that the Democrats stance on wall funding is just a tool to implement their real agenda of power accumulation and eliminating Christianity from the public square. They can accumulate power with votes from illegal aliens who are dependent on government programs and persecute anyone who has an allegiance to something higher that the ‘state.’”
Mark Hoffman stands in entrance of his truck in Lewis Middle, Ohio, on Aug. four, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Mark Hoffman, self-employed
“Sure, proceed the shutdown.
“Odd how Democrats were for border security years ago. Perhaps the better question would be for them: ‘Why are you against border security now when you were all for it years ago?’”
Nena Chancy and son Hayden in Tampa, Fla., on July 31, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Nena Chancy, Tampa
“He can’t cave to the Dems on this problem. I hate that it has brought about a authorities shutdown, however he wants to maintain agency. The wall is an important a part of safety for our nation. I really feel that anybody that locks their doorways at night time and says they’re towards the wall is a hypocrite.
“The Dems have made it a political issue. They are much more concerned with opposing our president than the welfare of our nation.”
Don Hindman (R) with different Bikers for Trump in Wheeling, W.Va., on Sept. 29, 2018. (Samira Bouaou/The Epoch Occasions)
Don Hindman, Bikers for Trump
“Completely. Perhaps much more.
“The Democratic Party should be renamed the Hypocritic Elite Party. They all were for the wall up until Trump. And the word games being played are disgraceful. If the lamestream media actually reported what is happening, I’m sure many, many more Americans would be in support. I am completely sickened and angry every time I see a report of another child or person being killed by an illegal alien.”
Pat McDonough in Rochester, Minn., on Oct. four, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Pat McDonough, digital technician, Rochester, Minnesota
“Sure. The border difficulty has been going on too lengthy and wishes to be fastened. The wall ought to have been constructed way back. The crime by illegals and cash spent on them could possibly be used elsewhere.
“The Democrats seem to have their own agenda. It’s time to back down and join the majority to build the wall.”
Betty Risinger (R) and her son Terral in Las Vegas, Nev., Sept. 20, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Occasions)
Betty Risinger, retired, Las Vegas
“Sure, My husband and son each work for FAA [Federal Aviation Administration]. Husband labored for 40 years and went by way of all shutdowns—we survived with little hassle. Hold the federal government shut down till the complete $5 billion is handed.
“Terrible, drives me crazy, Have to stop watching the news to prevent damage to my sanity and TV.”
Mike Alicea in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., on Aug. 2, 2018. (Samira Bouaou/The Epoch Occasions)
Mike Alicea, retired banker
“I do consider that he wants to stand agency. We’d like a wall to cease the influx of individuals whom we merely can’t afford. How on one hand, we will lament about social safety being exhausted, our nationwide debt skyrocketing, and different monetary woes comparable to scholar mortgage debt, but we should always draw back from the maths. Every unlawful immigrant prices roughly $35,000 a yr in advantages. And, p.s., they’re breaking the regulation, You simply can’t decide and select which legal guidelines you want and ignore the remaining.
“[Democrats] hate Trump so much, they don’t care about the people. Funny how when [Mitt] Romney and [John] McCain were running that the Dems thought the wall was imperative. The DACA situation could be resolved in a minute if they would just put their Trump Derangement Syndrome in check.”
Kirsten N., dental hygienist, Minnesota
“Sure. A authorities shutdown exhibits to the remainder of us the extreme bloat of the federal authorities, perhaps trim some fats in a few of these businesses.
“My opinion on the Democrats is that they only oppose it because the president wants it, and all his supporters. There was a time that they wanted border security just as much as now, but now it is immoral, un-American, abusive, and harms the children. What about the safety of American citizens and resources? The double standard is glaring at us all.”
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